There is something perverse about more than enough. When we have more, it is never enough. It is always somewhere out there, just out of reach. The more we acquire, the more elusive enough becomes. –Unknown

There is something perverse about more than enough. When we have more, it is never enough. It is always somewhere out there, just out of reach. The more we acquire, the more elusive enough becomes. –Unknown

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8 thoughts on “There is something perverse about more than enough. When we have more, it is never enough. It is always somewhere out there, just out of reach. The more we acquire, the more elusive enough becomes. –Unknown

      • It is very sad about the sweet buffs. When you see a mountain of sculls, you have to wonder how a herbivore ended up slaughtered . . . well, you eventually have to see that something was amiss there. I like to see the steps you take as you research things, learn things and change your mind!

        I am learning with you!
        Elephant

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      • What I learned today was that on the plains many of the tribes believed that after a hunt the stronger hunters should share their kills with the weaker members–except for the skins. This loophole led to members who wanted to have prestige and ego gratification using their buff hides to get it. Just like the rest of humanity some people even when slaughtering what had become their only source of sustenance were bewitched with the idea of riches. Very shortsighted indeed. Also it seems that during the 1800’s the environment, overgrazing and predators put the buffalo on very shaky ground. It’s also interesting to note that the larger herbivore mammals of the plains were hunted to extinction by Indians hundreds of years before which opened a way for the buffs to become the dominant animal. So when the indians came from Siberia they did the same thing the Europeans were doing but in a different direction. Ugh. The world is a mess. But I still love it somehow.
        I love having you along for the ride–you always make me think deeper. Thanks, Elephant!

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      • Time line alert! Place these events in relative terms. People making there way across the Bering Straits did so thousands of years ago, yet the buffs dropped in population less than 200 years ago.

        The population of native Americans was not so huge – despite their unattractive behavior – that it would suddenly cause the huge drop in the buff population. Again, your arguments indicate that there likely was something different that occurred that changed the delicate balance.

        Keep looking! I will look forward to your full report when your research is done!

        Elephant

        I expect a full report on this!

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      • Yes, ma’am. I’m know I’m crossing huge times, but my point in all of this is that humanity is imperfect–every single tribe, every ethnicity etc plays their part in changing the environment. It may come across that I’m trying to blame the Indians for the apocalypse but that’s not what I mean. There is a knee-jerk reaction since the 1960’s (actually even in the 1880’s there were those who insisted on placing the Indians into a class of nobility) that says the Indians were noble ecologists. This simply isn’t true. The fact that their populations remained small doesn’t negate the fact that they were just as wasteful and greedy and great as the rest of humanity. This in no way exempts white people for the huge part they played in displacing the Indians (many came because they were displaced in Europe and Asia). Before the whites came the Indians also displaced each other. Okay, white people due to superior technology (that the indians eagerly traded for in most cases) displaced on a grander scale, but there is no reason to believe that some of the tribes wouldn’t have done the same thing if they’d invented better weaponry etc. I’m not sure what I believe about evolution, but I notice that people with darwin eating the fish bumper stickers usually have coexist stickers too–but this makes no sense. Why are we sentimental about tribes if we believe in survival of the fittest? (I personally believe in defending the weakest if they want to be defended). Oh, Elephant, it’s a crazy world. I love trains and modern showers, but I’d love to ride with the Indians, save the cute buffs and eliminate all public schools so kids could be free.

        Now I will follow instructions from my excellent mentor and do some more research!

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      • Oh my, so many ideas in one reply. You are researching so I will not disturb you now!

        Elephant

        PS I can’t resist . . . In human history there is no absolute right and wrong, no absolute good or bad. You will not find one winner and one loser – there are shades of grey for both sides.

        Unfortunately, the west was “won,” and of two incompatible ways of life one prevailed (and that does not have to be right or wrong in an absolute sense).

        Evolution explains how and why animals developed as they did – it is not a belief system. I can understand that horses have gotten larger over the years and not “believe” I should kill little horses and feed big horses – I can like ponies!

        Absolute answers are often absolutely wrong!

        I wish you had eliminated public schools before I had to do my time in that salt mine!

        Thanks again for the wolf and buff pic!
        Hi Ho,
        Elephant

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      • I would have to disagree with your notion that evolution isn’t a belief system. It’s a theory that many people believe in based on things they were not witness to. Only recently did the T Rex become vegetarian. It’s a belief system based on faith but still to be proven conclusively though the salt mine teachers espouse it as fact. If suddenly there was proof that evolution was a flawed theory many people’s livelihoods would be at stake and a way of life would end. Ways of life end all the time–ask the autoworkers in Detroit who now probably migrated somewhere else and are competing with others for jobs.

        I like the theory better that at one time the earth was teeming with life and then it began degrading. With the degradation species could no longer be supported, hence extinction of the big mammals. With that corruption came human corruption, greed, stupidity etc, but that element of good is there too. I can’t prove this theory either though some scientists are finding interesting evidence to support it.

        If the salt mine teachers didn’t constantly set history up as pure good against pure evil I’d have more respect for them but as it stands it’s easier to teach people to hate each other based on what people long ago did without understanding the very complex, very human reasons for why they did them.

        As always, love hearing from you!

        I don’t want to kill little ponies either 🙂

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